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I Hate Hypocrisy

I've been in a debate in another forum lately. I had this wicked good response that I'm so proud of, I have to post it here:

Rodney said, "P.S If Kerry is attacking his war record not the SBVFB (Swift Boat Veterans for Bush)then did John McCain attack his also in 2000? 2 Attacks in 2 elections? coincidence I think not. Both times ads were funded by MAJOR BUSH SUPPORTERS in 2000 and MAJOR TEXAN GOP FUNDERS in 2004."

Rodney, Rodney, Rodney... Well DUH... WHO DID YOU THINK WOULD SUPPORT THEM? John Kerry SUPPORTERS?!

1. I never said Kerry was attacking his own record...now that would be ridiculous, wouldn't it? The point is that Bush has yet to say anything about Kerry's war record other than it was honorable, and that he should be proud of it. He doesn't need to. It's irrelevant to the issues at hand. He has enough ammo to go after him on his tenure in the senate; just as Kerry should be going after Bush about what he disagrees with. Hey, it's politics people. It's hardball, so get used to it, or get away from it.

2. But McCain was attacking Bush in the 2000 Primary too! I know you're referring to the commercial where Bush and McCain are in the debate with Larry King moderating. The ad strategically leaves off where McCain says,

"That really hurts. And so five United States senators, Vietnam veterans, heroes, some of them really incredible heroes, wrote George a letter and said, "Apologize." You should -- you should be ashamed."

But what the ad doesn't show was the dialog afterward that went as follows:

BUSH: Let me just say --
KING: Please -- are you saying that governor Bush was responsible for that call?
MCCAIN: I don't know who was responsible for it, but I know that the attacks go on.
BUSH: Let me just say one thing. Let me say one thing about all this business, John.
MCCAIN: I told you. I pulled them all down.
BUSH: You didn't pull this ad.
MCCAIN: Yes, I did.
BUSH: This that ended up in a man's windshield yesterday? That questions my -- this is a -- this is an attack piece.
MCCAIN: That is not by my campaign.
BUSH: Well, it says, "Paid for by John McCain."

So McCain didn't even know for sure that Bush was responsible, and yet he still had ads out attacking Bush!

Rodney, you and the rest of the Kerry supporters need to start being a little more intellectually honest. You act like the only people on earth who have a right to an opinion are those who agree with your point of view. You condemn those who give money to Pro-Bush or anti-Kerry organizations, but have yet to condemn those who have given far more to democrat causes. That, my friend is called Hypocrisy.

Did you know that "a government report released yesterday shows the vast majority of donations to controversial 527 groups such as Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and Moveon.org go to Democratic and so-called "progressive" groups?

According to the IRS records, as reported by opensecrets.com, just two of the top 25 donors to the politically charged groups in the 2004 election cycle gave to Republican organizations. JUST TWO!!!

Broken down by amount, it means 24 high rollers gave $56,193,000 to left-leaning groups, while two donors gave $1,520,000 to Republican groups.




NOW READ CAREFULLY HOW IT ALL BREAKS DOWN...




The list is lead by Peter Lewis, who gave $14,230,000 to Moveon.org, the Marijuana Policy Project and PunkVoter, Inc., among other groups. Lewis is followed by well-known Democrat supporter and billionaire George Soros, who gave to the Joint Victory Campaign 2004, Moveon.org and others. His donations totaled $12.6 million.

Coming in third was producer Steven Bing, who gave just over $8 million to three "progressive" groups.

The lone donor to Republican 527s in the top 10 was Carl Lindner, who gave to four groups totaling $1,020,000. Paul Singer gave a $500,000 gift to the conservative organization Progress for America.

The 527 groups, named after the IRS code that governs them, are tax-exempt groups that raise unlimited "soft money" for political activities. Many are single-issue groups or organizations explicitly opposed to specific candidates.

Yesterday, President Bush criticized 527 groups and the TV ads they are running in opposition to himself and Democrat John Kerry, saying the organizations are "bad for the system."

While Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has taken shots for its ads critical of Kerry's Vietnam service, Moveon.org came under fire for videos on its website earlier this year that compared Bush to Adolf Hitler.

Moveon.org has been largely bankrolled by Lewis and Soros, each giving over $2.5 million during the 2004 election cycle.

The Democratic Joint Victory Campaign 2004 has received the most donations this cycle, raking in $41,685,706. No. 2 is another anti-Bush group, the Media Fund, which collected $28,127,488.

The top conservative group in fund-raising is the Club for Growth, which took in $5,288,847. Many of the group's donations came from individuals, some listed as "retired" and giving as little as $50."

SO don't even sit there acting all high and mighty and morally superior as if the Democrats are taking the high road. Did you also know that there are more direct connections to the Kerry Camp and these 527's than Bush has? Did you know that Kerry's former campaign manager now sits on the board of moveon.org???

IF YOU DISAGREE... PROVE ME WRONG.

Finally, I repeat what I said earlier:

Rodney, you and the rest of the Kerry supporters need to start being a little more intellectually honest. You act like the only people on earth who have a right to an opinion are those who agree with your point of view. You condemn those who give money to Pro-Bush or anti-Kerry organizations, but have yet to condemn those who have given far more to democrat causes. That, my friend is called Hypocrisy.

RICK

P.S. I will condemn neither, I will only question the accuracy of the charges made. There's this little thing called the First Amendment. Sorry, It applies to conservatives too.

9:36 a.m. - 2004-08-24

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