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Anoither Little Debate
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This is based on a debate going
HERE
Research it? ok... (I'm about to step in it here...
but hear me out..)
"To force Saddam out of Iraq, President Bush, like his father before him,
is willing to risk untold catastrophe as an acceptable price of victory." </i>
Ross Mirkarimi wrote that article over a year ago, and it was a commentary,
in other words, personal opinion.
But if you look at what has happened since, You have to draw different
conclusions based on the facts:
- Nearly three-quarters of Iraq's 27,000 kilometers of vital irrigation
canals were weed-choked by years of neglect. Today the CPA has spent nearly $9
million in Commander's Emergency Response Program (CERP) funds to clear over
18,500 kilometers of irrigation canals, bringing water thousands of farmers,
and creating jobs that boost the economy. (CPA)
- The Marshlands Restoration and Management Program is partnering with the
Ministry of Water Resources, the Ministry of Environment, University of Basrah,
AMAR Charitable Trust, Iraq Foundation and the governments of Canada, Italy,
United Kingdom, and Australia to build local capacity. Program initiatives
include creating a hydraulic model of the marshes to improve water management
through the Ministry of Water Resources, equipping a soil and water quality
lab at the Center for Iraq Marshlands Restoration, monitoring water quality in
reflooded sites, and extending healthcare services to marsh dwellers.
(USAID)
- Health care spending is now 26 times what it was under Saddam. All 240
hospitals and 95 percent of Iraq's clinics have reopened, neglected health
care facilities are undergoing reconstruction and rehabilitation, 856 health
projects have received funding, distribution of medicines has reached 12,000
tons, and over 22 million vaccinations have been administered.
(CPA)
- In an effort to increase Iraq's economic production, 128 farm families
participated in Winter Crop Technology Demonstrations. Supported by USAID, the
Agriculture Reconstruction and Development Program for Iraq (ARDI) established
334 hectares of demonstration plots in 15 governorates to demonstrate new
technologies and techniques for growing red wheat, durum wheat, barley,
chickpeas, lentils, and vetch. Farmers in Al Tarmiya, located northwest of
Baghdad, achieved impressive results after planting one hectare according to
ARDI recommendations. (USAID)
- Approximately 76,000 jobs have been created under the National Employment
Program, a CPA initiative that seeks to create 100,000 new public work jobs.
USAID, through its partner, BearingPoint supports sustainable economic
activities in Iraq that will enable regional and international economic
integration, stimulate international trade, and generate employment.
(USAID)
The above is just a sampling It's estimated that if the
progress in Iraq continues as it is it will wind up as a financial superpower in
the region. Far greater than any expectations it had under the leadership of
Saddam Hussein both when he was an ally and an enemy of the US. Trends indicate
they will outdo neighbors Saudi Arabia and Iran. (UN)
In the long (and short run) the Iraqis are better off.
On the subject of depleted uranium:
According to the RAND Corporation
- Exposure to uranium at high doses can cause kidney problems. However, no
increase in kidney disease has been observed in relatively large occupational
populations chronically exposed to natural uranium at concentrations above
normal ambient levels.
- Researchers at the Baltimore VA Medical Center are following the group of
Gulf War Veterans with the greatest exposure to depleted uranium, veterans
with embedded fragments. Although these individuals have an array of health
problems, many of which are related to their combat injuries, researchers say
"To date no manifestations of kidney disease attributable to the chemical
toxicity of depleted uranium have been found; neither do these individuals
appear to have manifestations attributable to radiation effects."
- RAND is a nonprofit institution with a long history of independent
research. RAND had experts review the literature, including Dr. Naomi Harley,
an authority on radiation physics, Dr. Ernest Foulkes, a heavy metal
toxicologist, and Dr. Lee Hilborne, a pathologist. Their review encompassed
literature relating to both radiation and heavy metal toxicity risks published
or accepted for publication in peer-reviewed journals, books, government
publications and conference proceedings.
The World Health Organization says:
- Average annual intakes of uranium by adults are estimated to be about
0.5mg (500 μg) from ingestion of food and water and 0.6 μg from breathing air.
- Ingestion of small amounts of DU contaminated soil by small children may
occur while playing.
- Contact exposure of DU through the skin is normally very low and
unimportant.
- Intake from wound contamination or embedded fragments in skin tissues may
allow DU to enter the systemic circulation.
So...
- About 98% of uranium entering the body via ingestion is not absorbed, but
is eliminated via the feces. Typical gut absorption rates for uranium in food
and water are about 2% for soluble and about 0.2% for insoluble uranium
compounds.
- The fraction of uranium absorbed into the blood is generally greater
following inhalation than following ingestion of the same chemical form. The
fraction will also depend on the particle size distribution. For some soluble
forms, more than 20% of the inhaled material could be absorbed into blood.
- Of the uranium that is absorbed into the blood, approximately 70% will be
filtered by the kidney and excreted in the urine within 24 hours; this amount
increases to 90% within a few days.
But...
- In the kidneys, the proximal tubules (the main filtering component of the
kidney) are considered to be the main site of potential damage from chemical
toxicity of uranium. There is limited information from human studies
indicating that the severity of effects on kidney function and the time taken
for renal function to return to normal both increase with the level of uranium
exposure.
- In a number of studies on uranium miners, an increased risk of lung cancer
was demonstrated, but this has been attributed to exposure from radon decay
products. Lung tissue damage is possible leading to a risk of lung cancer that
increases with increasing radiation dose. However, because DU is only
weakly radioactive, very large amounts of dust (on the order of grams) would
have to be inhaled for the additional risk of lung cancer to be detectable in
an exposed group. Risks for other radiation-induced cancers, including
leukaemia, are considered to be very much lower than for lung cancer.
- Erythema (superficial inflammation of the skin) or other effects on the
skin are unlikely to occur even if DU is held against the skin for long
periods (weeks).
- No consistent or confirmed adverse chemical effects of uranium have been
reported for the skeleton or liver.
- No reproductive or developmental effects have been reported in humans.
- Although uranium released from embedded fragments may accumulate in the
central nervous system (CNS) tissue, and some animal and human studies are
suggestive of effects on CNS function, it is difficult to draw firm
conclusions from the few studies reported.
In order to have the kind of effect that is suggested through the pictures
Kitty posted, those kids would have to literally bathe in pure uranium. As
mentioned above, the only organ affected by the ingestion of uranium, not DU are
the kidneys. This is caused only by high exposure to uranium, not DU.
This has nothing to do with love or hate of the war or George W. Bush. It has
everything to do with pictures that are not even consistent with known symptoms
of overexposure to uranium saying that they are. I hate to tell you that you are
mistaken, but based on my research (at your request) you are. The pictures
posted are a farce. It's the only reasonable conclusion.
5:16 p.m. - 2004-07-30
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